“This is important”
: You are convinced that these issues are relevant to life's biggest questions, and you want the truth, no matter what it is.1
Consequently…“I should hear you out”
: You enjoy these discussions and are eager to learn from them and to allow them to make their case. However…“But I'm cautious”
: You are skeptical of Mormonism, and you are only
promising to give their teaching a fair shake.
Use Wisdom-based objections before Knowledge-based objections
In using this strategy, missionaries should be given conversational control and treated like helping teachers. The rule of thumb then, at this first stage, is to raise innocent wisdom
-based concerns with their case for Mormonism rather than fancy knowledge
-based objections. If they cite some given evidence, say “
that's really interesting, I'll look in to that.” Then look in to it
. I take it for granted that these will not be hard objections for you to answer. Research them, and present your (inevitable) concerns during your next meeting. You will have the Mormons voluntarily
learning all the rebuttals to their own reasons for believing! If done successfully, the Mormon(s) in question will become very aware of how flat and impotent their case is, particularly their pray-feel test (see below).
Conversation tip #1
: Refrain from ever debating (e.g. never snap
back with “and why should I believe that?”). Be softer. Your thoughtful comments should convey a “my guard is down, I'm open minded” attitude, rather than a “I'm just
here to undermine you” attitude. Your resistances to their teaching should sound intrigued and philosophical:
Conversation tip #2
—“There is a lot I like about Mormonism, but I just don't see yet how I can accept…”
—“Hmm. Did you ever wonder if... that seems like it would be a worry for me”
—“I guess I just don't understand how I can know that...”
: Additionally, remember to maintain a cordial atmosphere
. For this strategy to work, you want to be especially good about agreeing with them as much as possible. If you are even slightly convinced of a point, or more
persuaded of a point you already believe because of something the said, acknowledge it.
—“Yeah, you know, that makes a lot of sense.”
—“Hmm, that's a good point. I hadn't thought of that”
—"Yeah yeah, exactly, I'm surprised more people don't see that"
What to expect from them
At stage 1 of this strategy, you are just learning, asking shrewd hard questions, and probing them for evidence. No pressure. You can expect the missionaries to forward their assertions very matter-of-factly, however. For example, they are taught to frequently chime in with “we know/testify that this is true.” Just be polite and let them continue talking. In making their case, Mormon missionaries almost always start with the following 1-2 punch:
They will attack mainstream Christianity with their “Great Apostasy” argument:
Here Mormons will argue that, if mainstream Christianity is true, then it would be run by prophets and apostles in a way that precludes doctrinal disagreements. But mainstream Christianity has no such thing. They claim that the true apostolic Christianity early on became hopelessly corrupt, and that authority was lost. (In this vein, you might also be asked specifically: “by what authority do you Baptize etc.?” — See mrm.org's response here.)
They will invite you test the truth of Mormonism by using their pray-feel test: Here you will be encouraged to test the truth of Mormonism and their founder's status as a prophet by assessing whether you have peaceful, inspiring, or otherwise good feelings as you sincerely pray asking God about it. If so, they encourage you to regard this as confirmation from the Holy Spirit.
You can also expect missionaries to encourage you to be reading the Book of Mormon, to listen to specific Mormon sermons online, and maybe to attend church with them. You should consider at least be reading some of the Book of Mormon every week as a gesture of good faith. After expressing the understandable concerns with the 1-2 punch discussed in the links above, you can start evaluating other arguments (which are less predictable, but normally easy to research).
To encourage the missionaries to start thinking about evidence, attempt to regularly be re-affirming your belief that you have good reasons for thinking [God exists](/god-exists), and good reasons for thinking [Jesus resurrected](/jesus-resurrected), and that you just do not see analogously good reason to accept Catholicism, Jehovah's Witness theology, or Mormonism. The goal is for them to see that the grass is greener over here
. If they don't see how well evidence a faith can
be (in basic Christianity), then how will they know what they are missing out on? You want them to see the difference: that Christianity can be successfully
intellectually motivated in a way that Mormonism cannot. They should see that being in the truth “feels” different.
STRATEGY STAGE 2 - Rebutting Mormonism
The advantages of the Star-Student strategy were listed in the introduction, and many of them will have already been realized at this point. If you continue to do things right, you will now
have an opportunity to present to your Mormon friends with some of the more advanced challenges with Mormonism. Because of the relationship and context, you will be able to both present more
of these, and they will be more seriously considered
. The missionaries are invested and want to help you, after all. So where to begin? I recommend bringing up to them a challenge you “found on the internet” and “can't think of an answer to”: their founding prophet's demonstrably
wild mistranslation an Egyptian papyri called The Book of Abraham.
Conversation tip #3:
When you finally present your knowledge-based objections to (or “reservations with”
) the Mormon's arguments, it is important that they know it is not your
argument, but the rather the argument of the book or website from which you got your information. You simply find yourself
being persuaded or partially persuaded by it, and want help.
—“I don't know; this seems like a fair criticism, don't you think?”
—“I think what it is saying makes sense”
—“I think they have a point here”
- Rather than simply being Christian, Mormons believe one needs a special kind of priesthood in order to properly perform such rites, mistakenly citing Jn 15:16, Acts 8:14-20, Jas 5:14-15, and Heb 5:4.
- For example, I am always honest and tell them straightforwardly "I think I would genuinely love for Mormonism to be true. I love how unified it is, and its strong family values..
- The Joseph-Stick argument: Here Mormons will assert that the stick of Judah and stick of Joseph in Ezekiel 37:16-18, which are prophetically to be “joined in one hand,” must fortell the union of the Bible and the Book of Mormon respectively. See response here from irr.org.
There is a good chance the Mormon(s) will recommend avoiding “anti-Mormon”
literature, and you'll just have to respond that…
<p markdown="1">“…I am only interested in the arguments that they are making and claims that they can back up. I ignore everything else. I'm also being careful to check context and double-check what is being said.<em>”</em></p>
In conclusion, you have now been able to present all your objections, and to be received in the best possible spirit. I take it for granted here that you genuinely
are open to being persuaded by the missionaries, if they can make a good case. That is to say, if you are not genuinely open to following the evidence where it leads, then this strategy would all constitute an act of dishonesty in your part, which is not
what I am recommending. You should theoretically feel free to show them this article and your “strategy” without them getting upset.