Was the AD 30 Jerusalem church saying that Jesus visited the traditional witnesses?

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  • E.g. 1st church said: “Jesus visited Mary”

    From AD 30 to AD 70 (its destruction), the Jerusalem church was saying that the risen Jesus appeared to the Easter women—including Mary Magdalene.

    A full page will analyze 5 arguments:

    • Mary is the first witness in all resurrection accounts.
    • Mt 28 & Jn 20 independently attest to it.
    • Gospels (biographies) endorse it.
    • Liars’d dislike saying Mary got the first Jesus-visit.
    • Mary etc. were saying “Jesus appeared to us!”.

    This is relevant because it is a straightforward example of a traditional witness-appearance that the 1st church was attesting to.

    But no, plausibly...

    • This Christophany is actually just an evolved angelophany.
    • Mary is absent in sources that would’ve mention her.
  • E.g. 1st church said: “Jesus appeared to Peter”

    Since AD 30, the Jerusalem church was saying that the risen Jesus appeared individually to Peter, prior to vising all the apostles.

    A full page will analyze 3 arguments:

    • 1st church circulated the 1 Cor 15 creed.
    • Lk inherited Lk 24:33-34.
    • Peter was saying, “Jesus privately appeared to me!”.

    This is relevant because it is a straightforward example.

  • 1st church said: “Jesus visited the 12”

    The AD 30 Jerusalem church was proclaiming that Jesus appeared to “the 12 (apostles)”.

    A full page at /jerusalem-church/say/jesus/rise/appear/to-12-apostles will analyze 4 arguments:

    • The Acts 2-3 speeches traces to c. AD 30 Jerusalem.
    • The 1st church circulated the 1 Cor 15 creed.
    • Peter visited/knew the Corinthians.
    • The 12 were saying “Jesus appeared to us!”
  • E.g. 1st church says, “Jesus appeared to James”

    The AD 30 Jerusalem church was teaching that Jesus appeared to “the 500” brethren.

    A full page at /jerusalem-church/say/jesus/rise/appear/to-james will analyze 3 arguments:

    • 1st church circulated 1 Cor 15 creed
    • The 1st church quickly made James its leader.
    • James was saying “Jesus appeared to me!”
  • E.g. 1st church says, “Jesus appeared to the 500”

    The AD 30 Jerusalem church was publicly insisting that Jesus appeared to “the 500 brethren at once”.

    A full page at /jerusalem-church/say/jesus/rise/appear/to-500-brethren will debate 2 arguments:

    • 1 Cor 15:6's “to the 500” is primitive-creedal.
    • The 500 were saying “Jesus appeared to us”

    This is relevant becase it's an example of a Jesus-appearance to a traditional group of witnesses which the Jerusalem church was proclaiming.

  • Traditional witnesses were saying “Jesus appeared to me/us”

    Soon after Jesus’s crucifixion, traditional witnesses (individuals and/or groups) were testifying that Jesus appeared to them alive from the dead.

    This https://beliefmap.org/witnesses/say/jesus/resurrect/appear-to-witnesses debates 7 examples/arguments:

    • E.g. “He visited us!” says Mary & women.
    • E.g. “He visited us!” says Cleopas & co.
    • [E.g. “He appeared to me!” says Peter.
    • E.g. “He visited us!” say ‘the 12’ apostles.
    • E.g. “He visited us!”say ‘The 500’.
    • E.g. “He appeared to me!” says James.
    • E.g. “He visited us!” say Acts 1 competitors.
    • E.g. “He appeared to me!” says Paul.
    • Christians didn’t fabricate the visit-accounts.
    • The gospels relayed witness testimony.
    • Within 1 week, (x,y,z) all say “he rose!”.
    • Within 6 weeks, tons (over 100?) say “he rose!”

    This is relevant because the Jerusalem church in AD 30 was well-poised to know Jesus bio (i.e. so they’d know of these persons and naturally list them as witnesses of the risen Jesus).